Top 72 Players for Head to Head
As of December 1, 2008
- Chris Paul
- LeBron James
- Dwyane Wade
- Chris Bosh
- Dirk Nowitzki
- Kobe Bryant
- Amare Stoudemire
- Dwight Howard
- Jason Kidd
- Chauncey Billups
- Danny Granger
- Antawn Jamison
- Al Jefferson
- Vince Carter
- Joe Johnson
- Jason Terry
- Marcus Camby
- Rasheed Wallace
- Mike Bibby
- Kevin Garnett
- Brandon Roy
- Caron Butler
- Devin Harris
- Jose Calderon
- Rashard Lewis
- Andris Biedrins
- Nene Hilario
- O.J. Mayo
- Tim Duncan
- Mehmet Okur
- Andrei Kirilenko
- Andrew Bynum
- Kenyon Martin
- Nate Robinson
- Ray Allen
- Steve Nash
- Pau Gasol
- Josh Smith
- Deron Williams
- John Salmons
- Paul Pierce
- Rajon Rondo
- Derrick Rose
- Al Harrington
- Gerald Wallace
- Shawn Marion
- Tayshaun Prince
- Yao Ming
- Baron Davis
- Chris Kaman
- Roger Mason
- Tony Parker
- John Salmons
- Wilson Chandler
- Andrea Bargnani
- Troy Murphy
- David West
- Ron Artest
- Mo Williams
- Hedo Turkoglu
- LaMarcus Aldridge
- Stephen Jackson
- Elton Brand
- Allen Iverson
- Ramon Sessions
- Michael Redd
- Andrew Bogut
- Jamal Crawford
- Zach Randolph
- Kevin Martin
- Rudy Gay
- Andre Iguodala
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Chris said
Chauncey is not that good for Head to Head. There’s no way he’s going before gilbert, nash, duncan, camby, J Rich, Al Jeff…
Erik said
Thanks for the comment Chris. I took another look at those guys and crunched some numbers, Chauncey may finally get that declining year everyone’s expecting. I’m bumping him down a couple of spots.
Patrick said
Great list. H2H is indeed very different from roto and should get its own seperate rankings. Dwight Howard seems in the right spot for H2H leagues.
Erik said
Thanks a lot Patrick! Hearing some words of encouragement from one of GMTR’s gurus almost brought a tear to my eye!
I’m glad you liked the page.
Chris said
Hey Erik. Thanks for considering my comment. The main decline in Chauncey’s stats is his minutes played. I also want to say that your list is really good. It’s great to finally see a H2H list, especially since that’s all I play. Maybe you can expand it to 100 players later on!
Erik said
Chris,
I’ll work on it as soon as I’ve published some of my drafts that I have on queue – I’ve got a bunch pending. I’ll see if I can expand it by early October so I can take a peak at the latest updated Yahoo! O-rankings.
Thanks for the continued support and readership.
bucko said
I like the list. One odd disparity are the ranks of Wade and Caron Butler. I can maybe buy moving Butler down so far due to DNPs but if that is the case doesn’t Wade drop at least a little? Is Butler that much more of a risk than Wade that he drops for the 10-12 area down to 36, but Wade doesn’t drop at all.
My rule of thumb for H2H is that if a guy is a decent injury risk I drop him about 10 picks, if he is a high injury risk I drop him about 20. I’d say both Wade and Butler are decent injury risks.
When completely healthy wade can give you top 1-3 talent, so I like him in the 11-13 range. Butler can give you 5-7 talent, so I like him in the 15-17 range. Camby(one healthy year doesn’t clear him completely from his injury prone label) can give you top 5-8 talent, so I like him in the 15-18 range. Ming can give you 8-12 talent, but I drop him 20 for being High risk and an extra 5 for not be absolutely 100% coming in, so I like him anywhere from 33-37. I use a system so my feelings about a player don’t effect my judgment. Especially in H2H where injuries hurt so much. You can’t just draft a guy and hope he stays healthy this year, which is what I think a lot of people are doing with Wade.
Even before the injury, when people were taking Arenas in the first round I thought it was insane.
Erik said
Thanks for your input Bucko. I will take it into account when I update and possibly expand the list this October.
bucko said
BTW..I am really like your blog and the H2H focus. So much out there is setup for roto. I love H2H myself, especially when you know the guys in the league and you can talk trash to the guy you are facing.
Erik said
I’m glad you’re enjoying your visits to PITP, Bucko! Actually the blog is not H2H-centric. I’d like to strike a balance between the 2 formats. That being said, I did do a TOP 50 for H2H just to balance out what’s already out there plus it just so happened that GMTR’s mock which we’re both in is set as H2H. So it seems my content has been leaning in that direction as of late.
Trash talking is great! And btw, it would be my pleasure to duke it out with you and some other guys in the mock in a REAL league. I’m sure the trash will be flying left and right in that one. Ha ha!
NC said
Great to have some real H2H analysis. Can you maybe give some more insight into the type of strategies you would use in drafting for H2H. I’m playing in a private H2H league this year, 9 cat, 7 player league. I’m picking last… so I’m really trying to work on a strategy that would help me with my position.
Erik said
@ NC: Stay tuned for this page’s update sometime this week.
I will email you privately for a more in-depth discussion regarding your draft and strategy options.
Chay said
Totally agree with the Josh Smith comment. I really like tracking players with high amusement value.
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Nick-(Iowa) said
You have Rasheed Wallace twice. Is one of them supposed to be Rashard?
Erik said
Oops. Thanks for pointing it out, Nick. Rashard it is.
FWG Wani said
I think Ming belongs in the top 15 (at least top 20) Yeah he screwed alot of people last year but that was last year. Let’s not have him carry that cross.
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