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Adding Fuel to the Fire!

Posted by Erik on September 11, 2008

Battle of Last Season’s Break-out Studs

Who will finish THIS season as the better fantasy pick Danny Granger or Rudy Gay?

Here’s the final installment in the mini-series I ended up doing of “Who’s your pick?” player spotlights.

BD and Gil were the PGs, Boozer and Big Al were the PF/Cs. I decided to round out the G/Fs with a couple of guys who are steadily climbing up the rankings and cheat sheets this Pre-Season: Danny Granger & Rudy Gay. Their stat lines are arguably comparable and the question of who’s got the better outlook for this season is debatable.

Both of these ultra-athletic phenoms are emerging superstars on bad teams. Ok fine, “bad” is a little bit too mean to call the Pacers and Grizzlies. Let’s be a little bit more PC (politically correct) and call them rebuilding franchises instead. Better?

Anyway, I’m digressing here. Both of these multiple category contributors are the cornerstones of each of their team’s “BIG 3” Ok fine, that was a stretch. Neither team has a “Big 3” per se, but a similar set of young players that they will be counting on to produce this season. Let’s call them the Pacers and Grizzlies’ “Mini-3”, shall we?

Pacers: T.J. Ford, Mike Dunleavy, Danny Granger

Grizzlies: Mike Conley, OJ Mayo, Rudy Gay

Danny Granger

Even though GMTR feels Danny will end up getting drafted too early this year, a lot of people still have him penciled in as a second round target; myself included. Somehow I doubt last season was Granger’s version of an 05-06 Boris Diaw flash in the pan type of year, but neither is he 1st round reach material just yet. I do agree with Nels in the sense that managers simply should check their drool at the door come draft day and not get too overzealous for a Granger pick.

Draft Advice: When you’re hitting that “Danny Granger Range” during your live draft… PAUSE. Take a deep breath. Take some time to look at the other players on your Pre-Rank list and see exactly who you may be passing up to get your Granger pick.

Rudy Gay

The rebuilding Grizzlies will be offering a huge serving of GAY this year with a side order of CONLEY. Sign me up for an order of that meal! … just go easy on the MAYO (rookie) please. – yeah, yeah… call it cheesy, but I couldn’t resist. πŸ˜›

In back to back seasons, Memphis has decided to ship off Pau Gasol and Mike Miller. These moves simply open the floodgates for Rudy to outdo his solid fantasy contributions last year. Even IF, Zach Randolph gets traded to Memphis, I am still expecting an improvement from Gay.

Rudy doesn’t trail Danny too far in some of the rankings out there, but far enough for us to see some potential Granger-to-Gay bounces in some drafts this year. This strategy can possibly turn out to be a decent move.

Draft Advice: Seriously explore the possibility of the Granger-bounce-Gay move! Yes, both of them fill up many CATS nicely and combined, they make a sick combo.


They’re both already searing hot on every fantasy manager’s radar this season and you’ve, odds are, already done your homework on both them. So I’ve decided to do this post a little differently from the previous two and simply add fuel to the fire and pimp BOTH these guys even more!

And since they say “a picture is worth a thousand words“…. so without further ado…. Let’s bring on the PIMPAGE! πŸ™‚

Danny Granger 07-08: 80 Games, 19.6 PPG, 6.1 RPG, 2.1 APG, 1.1 BPG, 1.2 SPG, 2.1 Trey/G, 44.6 FG%, 85.2 FT% (4.7 attempts), 2.1 TOs

Rudy Gay 07-08: 81 Games, 20.2 PPG, 6.2 RPG, 2.0 APG, 1.0 BPG, 1.4 SPG, 1.7 Trey/G, 46.2 FG%, 78.5 FT% (3.9 attempts), 2.4 TOs

So have you made your choice yet? I’m personally on the fence on this one. Both guys are arguably due to be worth 2nd-early 3rd pick material and are clear favorites to end up in the Top 15 by season’s end. Eeny… meeny… miney… mo… Aaargh! Ugh! I just got a headache… Danny Granger by a hair it is. Who’s your pick?


5 Responses to “Adding Fuel to the Fire!”

  1. Brendan K. said

    I think that both Gay and Granger will have significant advancements this season, up into the 24-ish ppg range, both average about 2 3 pointers per, and both will average more than a steal and a block.

    Ultimately, I still prefer Granger for a few reasons (most of which I’ll be saying in my Grizzlies preview that’s going up later today!) One thing to remember is that TJ Ford, though an obvious injury risk, is still a much better PG than Conley or Lowry will be this season. Further, Granger will benefit from the relative continuity of his teammates. I fully expect at least 9 (and probably more) of the current 13 Grizzlies on roster to log at least one start each this season. The games of, say, Darko vs Antoine Walker vs Hakim Warrick (vs Zach Randolph?) aren’t exactly so similar as to seamlessly adapt to everybody around them. I trust Granger’s teammates to balance the attack and let him do his thing more than I trust Marc Iavaroni to coordinate ANYTHING.

  2. Erik said

    On Ford > Conley: Although the status quo may hold true for now, I feel that it is just a matter of time (a season or two maybe) until Mike surpasses TJ’s real life and fantasy value. For now their discrepancy is a matter of Ford’s being ahead in the NBA experience department.

    While I agree that the grizzlies are the worse – *cough* – I mean the team with more rebuilding to do in terms of player talent and “gel-factor’ – hmmm, that was a cool term; I feel Rudy’s commitment and talent are enough (for now) to allow him to log strong enough numbers to be a worthwhile fantasy challenge to Danny.

    Thanks for being a regular comment contributor to PitP! I am enjoying our cognitive discourse! πŸ™‚

  3. Brendan K. said

    The pleasure’s entirely mine, sir! I like Conley, but not especially more than Jerryd Bayless or DJ Augustin or other undersized PGs. I know Conley’s a better passer, but that franchise has to commit to SOMEBODY and trade 2 or more guards to let him have a chance to develop.

    I wish the Grizz had this ridiculous a roster when I lived in Arkansas. I’d have been to more games for sure.

  4. Erik said

    Hey Bren! Since Bayless perks up your interest, perhaps I can coax you into doing a Bayless vs Fernandez comparison as part of your Portland Team preview (well if you plan to one at least).

  5. […] Gay – His game isn’t too far from that of Danny Granger’s – as I’ve highlighted here. And yet he is ranked at effectively a full round after Danny’s draft position. He’s […]

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